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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986 04-08 CC MIN1 Book 67/Page 16 4/8/86 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY, CALIFORNIA April 8, 1986 The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of National City was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Mayor Morgan. ROLL CALL Council members present: Cooper, Dalla, VanDeventer, Waters, Morgan. Absent: None. Administrative officials present: Bolint, Campbell, Eiser, Mc Cabe, Post, Stafford. SALUTE TO THE FLAG AND INVOCATION The meeting was opened with salute to the flag led by City Manager McCabe, followed with invocation by the Rev. Gary Craft, The Lord's Harborlight. APPROVAL OF MINUTES The minutes of the regular meeting of April 1, 1986. Moved by Waters, seconded by VanDeventer, so moved. Carried by unanimous vote. PROCLAMATION Moved by VanDeventer, seconded by Cooper, it be accepted by title only. Carried by unanimous vote. The Proclamation of "BOYS CLUB WEEK" — April 13-19, 1986. Moved by Cooper, seconded by VanDeventer, it be approved. Carried by unanimous vote. PUBLIC ORAL COMMUNICATIONS IVY MATLOCK, 1828 "L" Ave. was present and spoke of people dumping old television sets, furniture etc. in the alley behind her property, and inquired if she could put a sign on her shed saying "no dumping". Mayor Morgan asked the City Manager to check this out and give Mrs. Matlock an answer. Mayor Morgan said it was twenty—six years ago today that he was elected to the City Council; it was twenty years ago that he was elected Mayor; he has served the public for over a quarter of a century. The Mayor noted some of the changes during that time and said it had been a pleasure. PUBLIC HEARINGS P UBLIC HEARING — Appeal of a notice of intention to abate and remove three (3) wrecked, dismantled, abandoned, or inoperative vehicles as a public nuisance at 110 S. Drexel, Case File No. CV-86-45. Staff recommends the vehicles be removed as a public nuisance. Moved by Waters, seconded by VanDeventer, we continue this public hearing for 30 more days; at that time, Mr. Usher must have them removed or staff will be authorized to proceed. Carried, by the following vote, to —wit: Ayes: Cooper, VanDeventer, Waters, Morgan. Nays: Dalla. PUBLIC HEARING — Resolution of Intention No. 14,867, District No. 225 (Alley — 18th to 22nd, West of Wilson). Staff recommends the hearing be held, Council order any changes to the work to be in compliance with the Streets and Highways Code (a change to the district has been requested), bring a Resolution setting out such changes, or if there are no changes, deny or overrule all protests and close hearing. Moved by VanDeventer, seconded by Cooper, this public hearing be closed and move all staffs recommendations (including the requested changyi. Carried by unanimous vote. PUBLIC HEARING — Appeal of City Council re Application for Conditional Use Permit 1985-29 to allow the sale of beer and wine (Type 41 liquor license) as an incidental use in conjunction with a restaurant at 1467 Plaza Boulevard, Applicant: Nicolo Munna. Planning Com mission approved subject to six conditions; staff recommends, if Council approves this application, that approval be conditioned upon the six conditions set forth by the Planning Commission, plus one additional condition that will prohibit the sale of beer and wine for off —premise consumption. Moved by Waters, seconded by VanDeventer, the public hearing be closed, and the application for Conditional Use Permit, Type 41, be approved, and all stipulations of staff be adhered to. Carried, by the following vote, to —wit: Ayes: Cooper, Dalla, VanDeventer, Waters. Nays: None. Abstaining: Morgan. Book 67/Page 17 4/8/86 PUBLIC HEARING — City Council's appeal re Application for Conditional Use Permit No. 1985-27 for the sale of alcoholic beverages (Type 47 liquor license) as an accessory use in conjunction with a restaurant and bar; and for the sale of alcoholic beverages after midnight at 1430 Plaza Boulevard, Applicant: Stephanie Irene Kaye. Planning Commission approved subject to nine conditions. Staff recommends, if Council approves this application, that approval be conditioned upon the nine conditions set forth by the Planning Commission, plus one additional condition that will prohibit the off —sale of alcoholic beverages. Moved by VanDeventer, seconded by Waters, I move this public hearing be closed and approve all conditions except items 6 and 7, and eliminate no bar and lim it the seating to 32, and the hours be to 2:00 a.m. First apparent restatement of motion: to approve the Conditional Use Permit, changing Condition 4 to 2:00 a.m., and approving the Planning Commission's conditions. Second and final apparent restatement of motion: We're approving number four and all the others. Carried, by the following vote, to —wit: Ayes: Dalla, VanDeventer, Waters. Nays: None. Abstaining: Morgan. Absent: Cooper. PUBLIC HEARING — City initiated application to vacate and close 20—foot wide alley lying between Kenton Avenue and Harbison Avenue, north of Division Street, Case File No. SC-1-86. Planning Commission recommends against the alley closing and that Council defer Mr. Cunradi's obligations as far as improving his portion of the alley. Staff reco m mends that unless adjacent owners agree to improve the alley, that Council approve the vacation and direct curb, gutter and sidewalk improvements to be completed where the alley adjoins adjacent streets. Moved by Waters, seconded by VanDeventer, so move (Table for one week.). Carried by unanimous vote. Moved by Waters, seconded by VanDeventer, under no circumstances will we be closing this particular alley. Carried by unanimous vote. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING — City Initiated proposed amendment to Title 18 (Zoning) of the National City Municipal Code to establish regulations for automotive and truck repair establishm ents and other uses located within manufacturing and industrial zones. Planning Commission recommends adoption of the proposed Code Amendments. Staff recommends that the public hearing be continued to April 22, 1986. Moved by Dalla, seconded by Cooper, this meeting be held until April 22. Carried by the following vote, to —wit: Ayes: Cooper, Dalla, VanDeventer, Waters. Nays: None. Abstaining: Morgan. ADOPTION OF RESOLUTIONS Consent Resolutions (Resolutions Nos. 14,899 through 14,907). Moved by VanDeventer, seconded by Waters, they be accepted by title only. Carried by unanimous vote. Councilman Cooper requested Resolutions Nos. 14,900, 14,903 and 14,905 be considered separately. Vice Mayor VanDeventer said he would abstain on Resolution No. 14,906. Mayor Morgan said Council could consider Resolution No. 14,906 separately also. Moved by Cooper, seconded by Van Deventer, the other Resolutions be approved. Carried by unanimous vote. Resolution No. 14,899, "RESOLUTION DECLARING MOBILE HOMES TO BE REAL PROPERTY EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RESIDENTIAL MOBILE HOME IMPROVEMENT LOAN PROGRAM ADMINISTERED BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY." See above. Resolution No. 14,901, "RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING AMENDMENT NO. 2 TO THE STATE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM GRANT NO. 82—STBG-010." See above. Resolution No. 14,902, "RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN AMENDMENT TO THE LEASE AND OPERATING AGREEMENT FOR THE LAS PALMAS MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE." See above. Resolution No. 14,904, "RESOLUTION DECLARING CHULA VISTA ELECTRIC COMPANY THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH CHULA VISTA ELECTRIC COMPANY." See above. Resolution No. 14,907, "RESOLUTION ACCEPTING WORK AND AUTHORIZING FILING OF NOTICE OF COMPLETION FOR IMPROVEMENT OF DRAIN AT PARADISE VALLEY ROAD AND PLAZA BOULEVARD (ENGINEERING SPECIFICATION NO. 974)." See above. Book 67/Page 18 4/8/86 Resolution No. 14,900, "Resolution accepting a grant of a permanent easement for construction and maintenance of a wall and related facilities on Palm Avenue (Sacramento Professional Investment Group)." Mayor Morgan said maybe we should lay these items (14,900, 14,903 and 14,905) over to next week. Moved by Waters, seconded by Cooper, we lay it over for a week. Carried by unanimous vote. Resolution No. 14,903, "Resolution authorizing appropriation and transfer of funds from 1911 Contingency to Roadway Protection (Palm Avenue — Engineering Specification No. 985)." See Resolution No. 14,900 above. Resolution No. 14,905, "Resolution declaring Retaining Walls Company the lowest responsible bidder and authorizing the Mayor to execute an agreem ent with Retaining Walls Company." See Resolution No. 14,900 above. Resolution No. 14,906, "RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ISSUANCE OF A DRIVEWAY SPECIAL PERMIT AT 1705 HOOVER AVENUE (FREDERICK W. WEST)." Moved by Cooper, seconded by Waters, in favor of Resolution 14,906. Carried, by the following vote, to —wit: Ayes: Cooper, Dalla, Waters, Morgan. Nays: None. Abstaining: Van Deventer. ORDINANCE FOR ADOPTION Moved by Van Deventer, seconded by Waters, in favor of this Ordinance by title only. Carried by unanimous vote. Ordinance No. 1881, "URGENCY ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY REPEALING ORDINANCE NO. 1870, AMENDING CHAPTER 9.04, AND ADDING CHAPTER 9.06 TO THE NATIONAL CITY MUNICIPAL CODE TO PROHIBIT THE SALES OF FOOD OR BEVERAGES FROM MOBILE FOOD PREPARATION UNITS WITHIN THE CITY." Moved by Waters, seconded by Van Deventer, for adoption. Carried, by the following vote, to —wit: Ayes: Van Deventer, Waters, Morgan. Nays: Cooper, Dalla. NEW BUSINESS WARRANT REGISTER #40, Demands in the amount of $63,689.72. Moved by Waters, seconded by Cooper, these bills be paid and warrants drawn. Carried, by the following vote, to —wit: Ayes: Cooper, Dalla, VanDeventer, Waters. Nays: Morgan. Claim for Damages — Tracy N. Miller as Trustee of the Aimee Frankhouse Trust, dba Valueland Discount Center. Moved by Dalla, seconded by VanDeventer, this be denied and referred to the attorney. Carried by unanimous vote. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS Request for a permit to operate a sound vehicle on April 9, 10, 11, and 12, 1986 from 11:00 a.m. until 7:00 p.m. Staff recommends approval subject to nine conditions. Moved by Van Deventer, seconded by Cooper, in favor of this request. Carried by unanimous vote. Request for donation from Miss Dee Vitek, Miss National City. Moved by Waters, seconded by Cooper, in favor. Carried by unanimous vote. Request from Mr. Tom V. Marsiglia, President, National City American Little League. Moved by Waters, seconded by VanDeventer, this be filed because the date has passed. Carried by unanimous vote. OTHER BUSINESS Hearing on Resolution of Intention No. 14,867, District No. 225 (Alley-18th to 22nd West of Wilson). See above. Report regarding letter received by City Council alleging the Mayor contracted to have work done on his house without required City building permits. Moved by Waters, seconded by Van Deventer, we file it and I hope we never hear no more about it. Carried, by the following vote, to —wit: Ayes: Cooper, Dalla, VanDeventer, Waters. Nays: None. Abstaining: Morgan. Report regarding letter to the District Attorney concerning the Mayor and a ticket issued by the National City Police Department to a Mrs. Russell. (See Exhibit "A") Moved by Waters, seconded by Cooper, we file this. Carried by unanimous vote. Book 67/Page 19 4/8/86 Report re Sharing of Funding necessary to continue the Regional Criminal Justice Clearinghouse. Staff recommends Council approve in concept the increased fees to SANDAG to support the Regional Criminal Justice Clearinghouse to be effective July 1, 1986. Moved by Cooper, seconded by Waters, in favor of this request. Carried by unanimous vote. Additional gate in sound wall at 1512 Euclid Avenue. Staff recommends approval. Moved by Waters, seconded by VanDeventer, in favor. Carried, by the following vote, to —wit: Ayes: Dalla, VanDeventer, Waters, Morgan. Nays: Cooper. Request meeting of real estate committee. Staff recommends Council set a time and date for a meeting of the Real Estate Committee. Moved by VanDeventer, seconded by Dalla, we set this for next Tuesday for discussion of getting rid of these particular pieces of property at the 4:00 p.m. meeting. Carried, by the following vote, to —wit: Ayes: Cooper, Dalla, VanDeventer, Waters. Nays: None. Abstaining: Morgan. CITY MANAGER City Manager McCabe: I have no report. CITY ATTORNEY City Attorney Eiser: I have no report. OTHER STAFF Asst. City Manager Bolint: Yes, Mr. Mayor, as uh Mr. VanDeventer mentioned in the pre —meeting, we'd like to request that the Council set a time and date for a workshop meeting to discuss the Police facility. Vice Mayor VanDeventer: Move at this time to set it for the 22nd, right after the City Council meeting. Councilman Cooper: That's at 4:00? Vice Mayor VanDeventer: The 22nd would be... City Clerk: April 22nd is an evening meeting. Vice Mayor VanDeventer: That would be an evening meeting. Councilman Waters: Oh, not a workshop after the meeting... Councilman Cooper: A workshop after... Councilman Waters: No way. Uh, uh. Vice Mayor VanDeventer: Do you want to set it at 4:00, Gerry? Asst. City Manager Bolint: We had suggested 2:00 in the afternoon if that's agreeable. Vice Mayor VanDeventer: Okay. So move. Councilman Waters: Will you be here... Councilman Cooper: Will two hours be enough? Councilman Waters: You won't be here for this Thursday, will you Jess? Asst. City Manager Bolint: It's an evening meeting. Councilman Waters: Will you be here for the next Thursday? Councilman Cooper: Okay. Councilman Waters: How 'bout the following Thursday? Vice Mayor VanDeventer: Uh, we have a problem. Gerry will be out of town that's handling most of this, and so the 22nd at 2:00, which will be a Tuesday would be fine. Councilman Cooper: Okay. Councilman Waters: 2:00? Councilman Cooper: I'll second the motion. Mayor Morgan: Discussion? Vote please. Councilman Cooper: The meeting's at 7:00. City Clerk: Carried by unanimous vote. Mayor Morgan: Next order of business. MAYOR Mayor Morgan: I got this uh, one uh request for handicapped parking, and I guess you seen what Curt Williams uh said about it, uh. Councilman Waters: I move in favor. Councilman Cooper: Second. Mayor Morgan: Discussion? Vote please. Councilman Cooper: She's uh qualified and everything? Mayor Morgan: Next order of business. City Clerk: Carried by unanimous vote. Book 67/Page 20 4/8/86 CITY COUNCIL Councilman Cooper: Yes, I had this uh, I was appointed to the T—FAC uh committee, which is uh, Transportation Financial Advisory Com mittee, for uh SANDAG, and uh we have had several meetings trying to figure out what to do, where to get uh funds for transportation. That means highways and all these other good things, and I'm not gonna go into a long thing here about it. But I put this in the information, the information in here for this City Council uh so you'd be aware of what's going on. Now we will be getting, this committee did recommend to the uh, to SANDAG that we go with a half percent on the next, on the November ballot I believe. Uh, half percent on the sales tax to help raise money uh for transportation and for streets and highways. Mayor Morgan: And potholes. Councilman Cooper: And potholes, yes. And uh, this Council and all the Councils will be getting uh some more information on this, and they will be coming for the Council's input on this before this goes uh, is gonna, goes on the agenda for November, and I just wanted to put this in here for the Council to kinda bring 'em up to date as to what is happening. That's all. Mayor Morgan: Mr., Mr. Waters, you got... Councilman Waters: Yes, uh, the, the Mayor and I uh, spent the last, oh at least three days, three mornings, uh, of the week to go around —did you guys bring your sidewalks, curbs and gutters (Unintelligible) I give, give you? Huh? And uh, there's, there's, there's a few questions on here, and, and some uh considerations I'd like you to give on, and let me know what you feel about the com ments. First of all, on the front page here, I will, 1, I discussed this with City Manager, or City Attorney, but I'd like to put it on record. You have a case of a City employee here that's involved in the, on the 4th St. area, and uh, and I would like to have his ruling on that. I see no, I don't believe there's any problem here, but I'd like to have your comments into the record, so uh maybe the City employee won't be in any (Unintelligible). That's on the address at uh, reference 2933 4th St. City Attorney Eiser: As I understand the question, it's whether there's any uh impropriety involved in a City employee owning property involved in this project. It would be curbs, gutters and sidewalks, and in my opinion, there is no problem with that unless there's some type of favortism shown, which... Councilman Waters: There's ten property owners in the same area basic that's getting it work done, so there wouldn't be no conflict there, would there? City Attorney Eiser: I see no problem with that. Councilman Waters: Uh, so that's one item. Uh, now on the next page, Item 2. Over at 2145 Hoover, National Plastics, that's a business over there. Uh, the areas around it, huh? At 2145 Hoover, National Plastics, and the phone number is 477- 9409 if you wish that. It's on there. Uh, that's National Plastics. Now in the whole area there, the businesses have all paid to put in their own sidewalks, curbs and gutters so far. Vice Mayor Van Deventer: Could I speak to that one? Are we gonna speak individually? Councilman Waters: Oh yeah, if you, if, I want your comments. Vice Mayor VanDeventer: Yes, that was one that I brought up. I tell you what the biggest problem is in that area. That, that, we have a major condition there of everybody riding the trolley. Everybody rides the trolley. They walk in the street there. Every time it rains, that property owner is not gonna do anything to it. At one time that was an absentee ownership. I don't know who owns it now. There's no way for us to force him to put those sidewalks in. Councilman Waters: There isn't? Vice Mayor VanDeventer: Not that I know of. I checked, I think we need to put that sidewalk in for the convenience of the general public. Mayor Morgan: That, that's right across from our uh public works yard too, and we have a sidewalk and curb and it looks real nice... Vice Mayor VanDeventer: Yeah. Mayor Morgan: And that's the only one that don't have... Vice Mayor VanDeventer: Yeah. That's, that's why I brought it up at, I was the one that brought that... Councilman Waters: (Unintelligible) Vice Mayor Van Deventer: That's why I brought that up to add it. If you'd walk down there, or go down there and see what goes on during the day, for the safety of the general welfare of the people of the National City, we need to put that in. Mayor Morgan: George, the only one I, we looked at 'em, and the only one that I uh, that I uh don't believe that we should put in is on 8th St. for those businesses. Councilman Waters: Okay, I'II get to that one then. Mayor Morgan: Go ahead. Book 67/Page 21 4/8/86 Councilman Waters: Okay. All right here uh, for instance uh, let's see what this here, here's page four if you want to keep up with it. On 8th St. uh, we have uh, 1310, let's get this down here. All right here we are. Uh, from, from "M" to Palm Ave. in front of an empty lot, from "M" to, uh, this is on page five, on 8th St., the south side, from "M" to Palm Ave. in front of an empty lot. Uh, that and uh, also on 8th St., on the north side, from "M" to Palm Ave. in the front of any empty lot. These are business lots. Mayor Morgan: The only one, only one on the south side George. You (Unintelligible) up right on the north instead of on the south side, it's from "N" Ave., in front of that lot there. Then you get into some homes there, addresses, so, so what I don't think we should do is put in those where they gonna be a business or a building coming in; those businesses, they'll (Unintelligible) be forced to put in the gutters, curbs and sidewalks. Councilman Waters: There's two business lots here. Councilman Dalla: I would, I'd like to speak to that. That particular area, if you uh pass by it on a regular basis, a lot of pedestrian traffic uses that side, either side of that street. And it, it's also such a well —travelled street with people passing through town, and it looks pretty tacky. And I think that that's an important area to put it in. I mean, the, the, the business may go there next week, it may be five years or ten years. But that presents the wrong kind of image to people that are passing through this community; it's kind of a patch quilt effect. 8th St., major arterial, I see people push strollers down there on the dirt, and when it rains, they end up walking in the street. And it doesn't matter to the pedestrian whether it's a business or not. When it rains and it's muddy, they walk in the street. And uh, I don't, I have a problem with putting it in and then stopping, and then putting it in and stopping. Let's do it right, get it done, and uh, it's gonna be there forever. I mean we could wait forever for the business. Mayor Morgan: Well George has he convinced you? Councilman Waters: Hell no. (Laughter) Uh, you know why? I'II tell you why. Uh, here, the reason why, look on the same page down at the bottom here. We went out into the neighborhoods and we covered Kenton, uh, 3 uh 30, 331 Kenton, and uh, two, when we went to 331 Kenton, this is the people that went around and uh, and uh supposed to survey the City. 205 and 213 Kenton on, really basically over on the same side of the street, very close by, where two, there's no sidewalk and neither one of them are considered right in the Kenton area. But if we took care of just the two or whatever, then it had that whole area done. But that's in a residential area. I would like to give priority to the residential area and if it's enough money, then go back to those two business areas, and you're talking about uh, about 2,000 sq. ft. of business area there which is very expensive. Yet we're sidetracking, if you look at five, uh, two on Kenton there, they were done. And right here at 3, back here they went down and surveyed 321 Kenton Ave. At 313, which is on the same side of the street, just one house away, there's no sidewalks, but there's no listing here for it. So 1'm, what I'm saying uh, when they went around and done this surveying, why did they pick one house, and just the next house down doesn't have any either, but all the rest of the neighborhood has it, but they skipped that one. Councilman Dalla: Okay, Mr. Waters, I don't, I don't know why each individual one was selected over another, but I know that some of the criteria was the amount of pedestrian traffic, and uh, and whether it's on major arterials near schools, uh, that sort of thing. The other thing that I know is that this is not everything. In other words, this project does not complete the needs of the City. And there are going to... Councilman Waters: (Unintelligible) Councilman Dalla: There are going to be a number of areas after this is done that need to be Councilman Councilman Councilman side of the that. Why Councilman Councilman worked on. Waters: Do you find that kind of odd, this one here though, Mike? Dalla: Well I don't, I don't... Waters: 321 Kenton, the, the next door down, next door on the same street. They skipped it, but the whole area of Kenton is done except would they skip that? Wouldn't you say it's odd? Dalla: I don't know. Waters: The City Engineer... City Engineer Stafford: I have a question please. Uh, we went out and, and looked at various areas throughout the City, and I think on Kenton St., we simply made a mistake. That should not have been included at all. That's an area that would qualify for the 50/50 sidewalk program. It was just a mistake. I think that entire Kenton area should be deleted. There is, up north around the corner, there's a place that has been brought to our attention that is for replacement and repair. The criteria that we use to develop these, and I have plotted on this map the origin of about 90% of these areas that were picked. They either came through Public Works, which in turn undoubtably came uh as a request directed to Curt 1 Book 67/Page 22 4/8/86 Williams, or it uh, it came from uh one or two Councilmen. The areas that are infilling, like on 8th St. was just simply determined by what we thought the basic criteria for that infilling program was for. 8th St. is a dangerous road to be walking on. Kenton is not a dangerous uh road to be walking on. And when it rains there, it's muddy, and it's a mess on 8th St. Mayor Morgan: Mr. Cooper? Councilman Cooper: Uh, Mr. Mayor, on this, I was under the impression that when we uh instituted this program, this was primarily for residential for replacement uh of sidewalks, curbs and gutters. Now, I agree that 8th St. is a tough street to walk, but I'm wondering how many pedestrians actually walk 8th St. I mean during the course of a day. Uh, I, I'm for going into these residential area and fixing up some of these streets and these, or not the streets but the, the streets also, but that isn't in this program, but the uh sidewalks. We do have a lot of residential areas. We're asking them, we're wanting them to fix up their homes and to clean 'em up and all this kind of stuff. I think the first step that we need to take is in the residential area, and if we have money left over, then worry about 8th St. or the commercial areas. But uh, I'm gonna have to agree with Mr. Waters on this one, because I, I feel like the residential areas of the people, or some of them, the ones that we need to do, and replace some of these sidewalks, and curbs and gutters, and uh, if I understand this, this is going to be, should be an ongoing program, though shouldn't it? Councilman Dalla: I would, I would uh... Councilman Cooper: Mr. Engineer? City Engineer Stafford: Uh, yeah, the first work order did not use up all of the funds. However, it used up about 70% of the funds, so whether we get funding next year or not... Councilman Waters: No l put this on to give you a good shot at me here, but uh, for example, look at the last eight, Mike. Let's see. Here now, were on 30th St. over here. 506 30th, 432 30th, 341 30th, 316 30th, uh 204, 232-40, all the way up to 506. Well believe it or not, at 426 30th, there's no sidewalk and no one recommended it. The only one, that one sidewalk will finish the whole blessed area. City Engineer Stafford: We're gonna push it. Councilman Waters: That's why I find that at Kenton, and I found it here, and I question you Mr. Engineer, why you did that? City Engineer Stafford: No. Well, as I explained, Kenton, in my view, was a mistake. Councilman Waters: All right, 30th then... City Engineer Stafford: Uh, 30th, just simply we didn't put it down on the map. We intend... Councilman Waters: It's a mistake. City Engineer Stafford: Well, another mistake then; we are going to put the sidewalk on that. That has a higher criteria for the infilling aspect of the project. Mayor Morgan: The only thing that we have before us then George, is uh if Council wanted to, they can vote whether they want to put it in front of those vacant lots on 8th St. Councilman Waters: Or favor residential... Vice Mayor VanDeventer: Could I speak? Councilman Waters: ...that exists. Vice Mayor VanDeventer: Could I speak to that? Mr. Engineer, do you, uh the amount of square footage that's there, do you have adequate space to put that in the residential areas somewhere else? City Engineer Stafford: I think we could find places to put it, but I would like to stick to the criteria of the areas that qualify for the 50/50 program be left for the 50/50 program, and not go in and just put in sidewalks unless it's in a critical area for pedestrian safety between schools and so forth. Councilman Waters: Are you saying on Kenton where you haven't listed, they're under, they requested 50/50? City Engineer Stafford: No, but they would qualify if they did request, and we intend, we have funds set aside; we have about ;60,000 in the 50/50 fund. Councilman Waters: Well what are we saying here? I thought that uh what you had on here, you were gonna do. Now I'm hearing that uh, that there's uh, these aren't, these are listed under the 50/50 program... City Engineer Stafford: No. Councilman Waters: ...and you're not necessarily gonna do 'em. City Engineer Stafford: No, the, the, on Kenton St. is the only place where we have that inconsistency. That was simply a field mistake. Somebody went out and marked it where it would not ordinarily have been. Councilman Waters: Maybe you didn't understand my question. My question then to you was, uh, all these other addresses here where you have listed yourself, I only wrote in one nam e and address here, on one, one case. But it's not a big deal. But here, all these that you have listed here like 79, 80, 81 and so forth, Book 67/Page 23 4/8/86 that's on Kenton, listed here, I was of the, the thought that you were going to, this two —hundred and some thousand dollars we have; you called the contractor in and you're going around now marking those spots, and I was of the opinion if they ere on here by you, and the list you give the Council, these jobs would be done. Now you're trying to indicate to me that just because they're listed here, they're really not gonna get done. City Engineer Stafford: Uh, I would recommend that the ones that you see on Kenton Ave. uh, should not have been included. Councilman Waters: Including the 341 that you have up here and 331 (Unintelligible) none of the Kenton? Vice Mayor VanDeventer: Because they qualify for 50/50. George... Councilman Waters: Gee, what I'm saying, here when he give us this list, I was of the opinion this is what we were gonna get done. Mayor Morgan: All right, we got two, two items in front of us. On Kenton, we got a question whether we gonna put that in, and we got a question whether we gonna put uh, street, uh sidewalks in, on 8th St. Councilman Waters: Yeah. Mayor Morgan: ...and "N" Ave. Councilman Waters: Uh, huh. Mayor Morgan: Those two questions if Council wants to... Councilman Dalla: I'd like to speak... Mayor Morgan: ...we can take a vote on it. Councilman Dalla: I would like to speak to both of those uh. Uh and, add a third one to that after I'm done. The uh, there was concern expressed by the Mayor I think a week or so ago about explaining to people how the City's gonna go in and put in sidewalks when other people have paid for them. And there's several programs, we have the 50/50 program and we have this new program which is to infill, and the criteria that we established for that program was high pedestrian where there's a lot of children, or there's a, the lot of activity or volume on the street, uh near churches and schools and that sort of thing. So we had a criteria for going in and putting these things in. And that's different from the 50/50. And there's a handfull here that were included by mistake. We had two maps that were given to us on two different occasions that limit, indicated all these places, and that was for us to point out problems. The City's a big place, and you could, you could spend a week or two doing this and still miss something. I don't think that's a criticism. I think that uh you gotta start somewhere, and you might be a mixup somewhere, but I think that the Kenton people, the Kenton St. people who want to follow our criteria should be eliminated. And we can uh, perhaps if we do that, we can uh put I think uh, on Palm Ave. from Division to 4th St. On the West side, there's nothing there, very high, high volume area, people travel up and down that street. It's in front of residential property. I don't know what it's zoned, but it's residential property across from that church. On one side you have the church looks nice, there's sidewalk. On the other side, there's just gutters and, and uh, and it's rutted, and if we eliminate the Kenton and follow this, this uh, the established policy, then we, perhaps we would have enough to do that Palm Ave. and Division St. section. That's one item, and I'll make that a motion in a second. The other item is 8th St. I feel very strongly about 8th St. and going ahead as we have it here. If you remember the slides that I showed you, that was one of the areas on 8th St. where you can tell just by looking at the dirt that people travel that very heavily. And when it rains, they travel in the street. And 8th St. is not some place you want to be walking with the traffic that's on 8th St. And I don't think it makes any sense for us to have sidewalk and then to stop for 50' or 100' because business might go there, and then have sidewalk again. That's what we have all over the City, and that's what we're trying to eliminate. Uh, and people pass through that street Mayor all the time, and their, the impression they get of National City is not what we want 'em to get because people are walking in the street or walking in the mud. Mayor Morgan: You m ade a motion that, your motion is that we'll eliminate Kenton, Kenton and try to put it over on Palm Ave. Councilman Dalla: Correct. Mayor Morgan: Is there a second? Vice Mayor VanDeventer: I'd second it. Councilman Dalla: And, and, okay, we'll go with that. I was gonna say and, and unless there's some other errors, or if uh, if I don't know if I missed any, but... Mayor Morgan: But we got a big... Councilman Dalla: Okay, go ahead. Councilman Waters: Let me ask... Book 67/Page 24 4/8/86 Vice Mayor VanDeventer: I want to speak to that motion. Uh, uh, the concern that I have on that Palm Ave. is, it's such a high population area of children walking in that area. And I think we would be doin' everybody a large favor on this because we all know the corner, especially the northwest corner where that auto repair is right up the corner there, we have a lot of... Councilman Cooper: Palm and what? Vice Mayor VanDeventer: Palm and 4th right on the corner. And if we would get up to that far with that sidewalk, we would definitely keep them kids out of the street. And I think that's a goal here to do it, and the only way we can do it. So if we're gonna replace any area in uh, in the area of eliminations or removing of a commercial zone and gonna throw it in there, that's an ideal situation to be. Councilman Waters: Let me ask a question of the City Engineer. Uh, whenever you have a list of new installations, that means there's no sidewalks or anything there. City Engineer Stafford: That's right. Councilman Waters: Correct? Is that what you're saying comes under the 50/50 program? City Engineer Stafford: No. That just comes under the infilling program based on our best perception of what was needed that did not originate with a request for, from a citizen or from a person. Councilman Waters: Because see here's, this whole page here including Kenton, Division, all the way down, is under the new installation on, on Item 6. City Engineer Stafford: Right. Councilman Waters: Okay. You're saying you're gonna do all them? City Engineer Stafford: No I don't think we should because ... Mayor Morgan: The motion is that we eliminate them on Kenton. City Engineer Stafford: But... Mayor Morgan: That's the motion and second. Councilman Waters: Okay, we're eliminating one, two, three, four, five, six, seven homes I think or so, aren't you? Eight, nine, ten homes, and uh, we're gonna, the vote is, is to put it on, in front of those, those two business lots on 8th St. Councilman Dalla: Nope. No, the motion... Councilman Waters: That's what they are. Councilman Dalla: The motion... Councilman Waters: I call 'em like they are. Councilman Dalla: Well let me finish. The motion is to, to, what we, what we don't put in to put in on Palm Ave., Division, uh 4th, on the west side. Councilman Waters: Division to 4th? Councilman Dalla: You know where the church is? Councilman Waters: Well, what we can... Councilman Dalla: Palm Ave. Councilman Waters: (Unintelligible) 8th St. Councilman Dalla: Pardon me. Councilman Waters: We've been on 8th St. all along. Mayor Morgan: Now the motion is that we're gonna eliminate along Kenton and put, put the sidewalks on the west side of uh Palm Ave... Councilman Waters: Palm Ave. Mayor Morgan: ...from Division. Councilman Waters: Palm Ave. Mayor Morgan: Palm Ave. from Division to 4th St., is that it? Vice Mayor VanDeventer: That is correct. Councilman Waters: Okay. Vice Mayor VanDeventer: We haven't got discussed 8th St. That'll be next. Councilman Waters: (Unintelligible) on 8th St. now, huh? Vice Mayor VanDeventer: Next. That'll be next after this one. Councilman Waters: Okay. Mayor Morgan: Vote on the motion. Councilman Waters: Oh and wait a minute, while... City Clerk: Excuse me, who seconded that please? Mayor Morgan: Uh, Jess. City Clerk: Thank you. Councilman Waters: Leave me ask you one question. Uh, you're on 4th & Division? Well here, we, we'll vote on that first. Mayor Morgan: Vote on it please. City Clerk: Carried by unanimous vote. Councilman Waters: One more thing in page 6 before you go, page 6, up here, you know they, we, we're doing it all the way down Division. And uh, we get down Division to Laurel, you know where that's at. Did anybody go out and look where I Book 67/Page 25 4/8/86 had that marked, our own pump station? We're the only ones, and it's very dangerous, that don't have sidewalks, the City of National City. Mayor Morgan: Mr. Engineer... Councilman Waters: Uh, does anyone agree to that? Mayor Morgan: Are we gonna put it around, around that pump station where we own that? City Engineer Stafford: Uh, we can do that if it's the Council's desire. I think we'll have to uh, we'll have to have the uh fence relocated uh by change order, maybe uh, uh, public works can do it. Councilman Waters: Would you recommend it stay like it is? City Engineer Stafford: No, I think we should relocate the fence. Councilman Waters: Okay. Councilman Dalla: Make a motion. City Engineer Stafford: ...and (Unintelligible) around there. Yes. Councilman Dalla: Make a motion. Councilman Waters: I move that we uh, we approve the, the uh sidewalks, curbs and gutters, whatever's necessary for our own property at Division & Laurel. Councilman Dalla: Second. Mayor Morgan: Vote on the motion please. Councilman Waters: Boy, that is, three, three days work is, was worth something. Mayor Morgan: He made a motion did you say? Councilman Dalla: We're easy to get along with. Mayor Morgan: Now uh, back on 8th St., there, do we want to talk about that one? City Clerk: Carried by unanimous vote. Sorry. Mayor Morgan: All right. Everything else is fine. Councilman Dalla: I hope so. I'd, I'd move that we, I mean, I don't know if we need a motion, I mean, this was submitted, and the deadline's come and gone. Vice Mayor VanDeventer: (Unintelligible) Councilman Waters: Do you have any objection to this stuff being on record? We might use it. Huh? Councilman Dalla: Put it in any record you want. I don't know what you mean by that. Councilman Waters: I, I wrote it in with the regular record. Councilman Dalla: Oh, well... Councilman Waters: I move that we approve this record. Vice Mayor VanDeventer: Second. Mayor Morgan: Discussion? Vote please. City Clerk: Carried by unanimous vote. Mayor Morgan: Next order of business. You got something, Jess? Vice Mayor VanDeventer: Yes, yes I have one item, and I'd like to have the Clerk uh read into the record. Uh, not long ago, we, we did some uh signs that we had put up on Thirty uh First Street, and we have a petition here by uh, eight people that would like to have those uh no parking zones removed, as it uh, they do not run into the problem as the people down on "D" St. This is more all the way down the other end in the cul—de—sac. This was supposed to be submitted. I don't know if it's been through the... Mayor Morgan: Is that a motion? Vice Mayor VanDeventer: Yes it is. Councilman Waters: I move that this be referred to Traffic Safety. Councilman Dalla: Or staff, whatever's appropriate, second. Councilman Waters: The staff or whatever's proper. Mayor Morgan: Is there a second? Councilman Dalla: I seconded that. Mayor Morgan: Discussion? Vote please. Mayor Morgan: Anyone else? City Clerk: Carried by unanimous vote. Mayor Morgan: Motion to adjourn is in order. Vice Mayor VanDeventer: Second. Councilman Dalla: So move. Mayor Morgan: Meeting adjourned. Book 67/Page 26 4/8/86 ADJOURNMENT The meeting closed at 9:36 p.m. c.2 , ma. �.(' CITY CLERK The foregoing minutes were approved at the regular meeting of April 22, 1986. Corrections No ejections A CITY OF NATIO AL CITY, CALIFORNIA