Loading...
HomeMy WebLinkAbout1975 02-18 CC MIN193 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY, CALIFORNIA February 18, 1975 The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of National City was called to order at 7:30 p,m. by Mayor Morgan. ROLL CALL Council members present: Camacho, Dalla, Pinson, Reid, Morgan. Absent: None. Administrative officials present: Campbell, Gerschler, Hoffland, McCabe, McLean. SALUTE TO THE FLAG AND INVOCATION The meeting was opened with the salute to the flag led by Asst. City Manager McCabe followed with invocation by Dr. Charles Molnar, First Baptist Church. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Moved by Pinson, seconded by Reid, the minutes of the regular meeting of February 11, 1975 be approved. Carried by unanimous vote. PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS City Clerk Campbell read a Sweetwater High School PTA proclamation naming MAYOR KILE MOORGAN recipient of the 1975 PTA Honorary Service Award (formerly known as honorary life membership) . MRS. DORCTHY HOWREY, PTA Award Chairman, was present and read a letter signed by PTA President, Barbara Strahan, who was unable to be present due to a School Board meeing; "Dear Kile, it is with love and affection that we present this Honorary Service Award and at long last acknowledge your unwavering dedication to the young people of National City. I know of no other public servant who can equal your generosity and pride in the youth of our City. Please accept this award from the Sweetwater High School PTA as evidence of our sincere thanks and appreciation. Respectfully, Barbara Strahan, President." Mrs. Howrey presented)on behalf of the PTA, a pin and card to the Mayor and invited him and everyone present tonight to attend the Sweetwater PTA meeting to be held Thursday evening. Mayor Morgan thanked the Sweetwater PTA and said it should be remembered that the children of a community come first; we should do everything possible to encourage and help them to have the best possible start in life; he is, indeed, surprised and delighted to receive this honor. MAYOR'S APPOINTMENTS - None. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None. ADOPTION OF RESOLUTIONS Moved by Camacho, seconded by Reid, these resolutions be presented to Council by title only. Carried by unanimous. RESOLUTION NO. 11,692, "RESOLUTION APPROVING REVISION TO THE FISCAL 1974-75 OPERATING AGREEMENT AS APPROVED BY NATIONAL CITY RESOLUTION NO, 11,500 BETWEEN THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY AND THE SAN DIEGO TRANSIT CORPORATION." Moved by Reid, seconded by Pinson, Resolution No. 11,692 be adopted. Carried by unanimous vote. Resolution No. 11,693, "A Resolution of the City Council of the City of National City Approving an Application for Federal Assistance Pursuant to the U.S. Housing and Community Development Act of 1974 and Authorizing and Directing the Mayor to File Said Application on 2/18/75 194 Behalf of the City" was listed on Council agenda butnot presented this time (Page 204, Paragraph 2) . RESOLUTION NO. 11,694, "RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF CORPORTION GRANT DEED TO P,K.,, A CALIFORNIA PARTNERSHIP (30th and 'A'). Moved by Reid, seconded by Pinson, Reslotuion 11:694 be adopted. Council- man Dalla said for the record he is voting against the adoption of this resolution primarily because it is not in accordance with the recently adopted General Plan; it includes a small portion of land that is designated for park use; had he been aware of this initially, he would not have supported it in the beginning. Mayor Morgan asked Planning Director Gerschler if this land is going to be dedicated as parkland? this was discussed in the Real Estate Committee meeting that the builders of this project plan to make a different bank there and the valley and both sides of the canyon are to be greenery and will be maintained by them at no City expense; is this what you understood? Planning Director Gerschler said this is his understanding. this is the agreement that was made. Mayor Morgan asked how this would vary from the General Plan. Mr. Gerschler said if it is actually accomplished, it won't vary. Carried by the following vote, to -wit: Ayes: Camac, Pinson, Reid, Morgan. Nays: Dalla. There was further discus- siont RESOLUTION NO. 11,695, "A RESOLUTION PROVIDING FEE SCHEDULE FOR THE REMOVAL OF ABANDONED, WRECKED, DISMANTLED OR INOPERATIVE MOTOR VEHIC- LES PROM PRIVATE PROPERTY, DECLARED TO BE A PUBLIC NUISANCE PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF ORDINANCE NO. 1433." Moved by Pinson, seconded by Camacho, Resolution No. 11,695 be adopted. Carried by the following vote, to -wit: Ayes: Camacho, Dalla,Pinson, Morgan. Nays: Reid. RESOLUTION NO. 11,696, "RESOLUTION EXEMPTING REQUIREMENTS FOR INSTAL- LATION OF SIDEWALK AT 131 WEST 33RD STREET (Bradston Rattan Company)." Moved by Reid, seconded by Camacho, Resolution No. 11 696 be adopted. Carried by the following vote, to -wit: Ayes: Camacho, Pinson, Reid, Morgan. Nays: Dalla. RESOLUTION NO. 11,697, "RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF STATEMENT OF ASSURANCES BETWEEN THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY AND CALIFORNIA STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IN COMPLIANCE WITH TITLE VI OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964, 78 STAT. 252, 42 -QU.S.C." Moved by Reid, seconded by Camacho, Resolution No. 11,69 ? be adopted. Carried by unanimous vote, RESOLUTION NO. 11,698, "RESOLUTION APPROVING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP (LOT SPLIT) PROPERTY BETWEEN 2ND AND 3RD STREETS, WEST OF LAUREL AVENUE (Progress Construction)," Moved by Reid, seconded by Dalla, Resolution No. 11,698 be adopted. Carried by unanimous vote. RESOLUTION NO. 11,699, "DEDICATION OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC STREET PURPOSES (Transportation Avenue)." Moved by Pinson, seconded by Reid, Resolution No. 11,699 be adopted. Carried by unanimous vote. RESOLUTION NO. 11,700, "RESOLUTION OPPOSING SENATE BILL 275 GRANTING PUBLIC EMPLOYEES THE RIGHT TO STRIKE-." Moved by Reid, seconded by Pinson, Resolution No. 11,700 be adopted. Carried by unanimous vote. RESOLUTION NO. 11,701, "RESOLUTION ENDORSING REHABILITATION CENTER ON OTAY MESA." Moved by Pinson, seconded by Reid, Resolution No. 11,701 be adopted. There was discussion. Carried by the following vote, to -wit: Ayes: Camacho, Pinson, Reid, Morgan. Nays: Dalla. RESOLUTION NO. 11,702, "RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS." Moved by Reid, seconded by Camacho, Resolution No, 11,702 ba- adopted. There was discussion. Carried by unanimous vote. Gplease see correction on Page 208. 2/18/75 195 (Resolution No. 11,703. "Resolution Appropriating Funds for Capital Outlay General Fund Account No. 3, La Siesta Way - 18th Street to 20th Street, Assessment District No, 182." was listed on Council agenda but not presented.) HEARINGS City Clerk Campbell said Hearings 1 and 2 pertain to the same property (The CONTINUED HEARING [continued from the 8/27/74 meeting] to Consid- er an Amendment to the Official .Zoning Map to add FLOOD PLAIN OVERLAY [F-1 or F-2] zoning to the previously approved prezoning to TCR-.PD on proposed BRADLEY ANNEXATION [ZC-12-»73]; Planning Department transmit- tals stating the Planning Commission recommended approval of zone change to prezone property of the proposed Bradley Annexation to F-1 Floodway and a request bar o saro & Keagy, Attorneys representing Mr. and Mrs. Robert Bradley,/ ostponement of hearing for approximately 90 days were attached to the Agenda; and the CONTINUED HEARING [contin- ued from 8/27/74 meeting] on proposed PREZONINO OF BRADLEY ANNEXATION [ZC-4-74], EQUESTRIAN PARK OVERLAY, "E" Zoning; Planning Department transmittals stating the Planning Commission recommended the Bradley Annexation be prezoned equestrian park overlay ["E" Zoning] and this prezoning will not go into effect until after the annexation becomes final and request by Asaro & Keagy, Attorneys representing Mr. and Mrs. Robert Bradley, for postponement of hearing for approximately 90 days were attached to the Agenda). Moved by Pinson, seconded by Reid, both of these hearings, Item 1 and 2, be postponed for 90 days to 7:45 p.m. May 20, 1975, in thse chambers (amended motion), There was discussion. Carried by unanimous vote. The CONTINUED (second advertised) HEARING on the City's proposed APPLICATION for Federal Assistance pursuant to the U. S. Housing and Community Development Act of 1974 (BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM) consisting of the following: (1) Three -Year Community Development Plan, (2) One- year Community Development Program, and (3) Housing Assistance Plan was held at this time. A memo from the City Manager attaching, (1) recommendations by the Citizens' Committee on Comunity Development regarding the Block Grant Program, and (2) minutes of the Committee for meetings held January 22, and 29, 1975; and a memo from the Executive Director, Redevelopment Agency, with the copies of the following attached: (1) Application for Federal Assistance (Exhibit "A"); (2) Memo, dated November 12, 1974, entitled, "Housing and Commu- nity Development Act of 1974, Block Grant Program as it Relates to National City, California"; (3) Letter, dated January 31,,1975, to Larry Ruehle, Chairman, Citizens' Committee for Community Development entitled, "City of National City, Three -Year Community Development Plan, Housing Assistance Plan and One -Year Community Development Program," with typewritten notations marked AP/RDA (Arnold Peterson, Assistant Director Redevelopment Agency) (Exhibit "B") (4) Memo, dated December 4, 1974, entitled, "Draft General Statement, Three -Year Community Development Plan Summary and One -Year Community Development Program"; (5) Memo, dated December 19, 1974, entitled, Recommendation for Citizen Improvement..,...Pursuant to the U. S. Housing and Community Development Act of 1974"; (6) Memo, dated January:1, 1975, entitled, "Community Development Program Projection"; (7) Memo, dated January 3, 1975, entitled, "Draft Housing Assistance Plan, City of National City"; (8) Chamber of Commerce letter dated December 10, 1974; (9) Chamber of Commerce letter dated December 17, 1974; (10) Memo from Merrell L Watts to the Chairman and members of the Citizens' Committee, dated. January 23, 1975; and (11) Correspondence between Mr. Herman Baca, President, C.A.S.A. Justicia, National City, the Department of Housing & Urban Development (HUD), The Mayor, and the Redevelopment Agency having the following dates: December 20, 1974, two letters from HUD, one certified, one not certified, both undated; January 13, 1975; January 29, 1975, HUD.: January 29, 1975, C.A.S.A. Justicia; January 31, 1975; and February 5, 1975 were presented. City Attorney McLean said the City Council held the first public hearing on the 2/18/75 196 City's application for a Block Grant under the Housing and Community Development Act of 1974 last week; that program requires two public hearings; since the staff made a complete presentation at the first public hearing, he suggested Council open this hearing for public comments. HERMAN BACA, 105 Harbison Avenue, was present and said he was present to reiterate their past grievances and objections to the application now before Council and discuss some of the misunderstand- ings. Mr. Baca read for the record his December 20, 1974, letter on behalf of C.A.S.A. Justicia to Mr. Roland E. Caulfield, Jr., U. S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (Document No. 55280). Mr. Baca said although the letter stated the application had been submitted, that was their mistake; at that time it was just a plan. Mr. Baca said there have been numerous letters back and forth between their organization, the Redevelopment Agency and the City Planners and HUD (Documents Nos. 55280, 55281, 55282, 55283, 55284, 55285, 55286 and 55287). City Attorney McLean pointed out these letters are a part of the agenda; Council has copies in front of them and had them at the last public hearing. Mr. Baca said if this correspondence is being incorporated into the minutes, that was his objective at this point; if that has been done, fine; if these objections and grievances are understood by Council, fine; this is what he is attempting to do on behalf of the organization (C.A.S.A. Justicia) and if everyone under- stands the letters he would not object to stopping here and now. Mayor Morgan said the Citizens' Committee invited Mr. Baca to come down and present his case before them and asked Mr. Baca why he did not appear. Mr. Baca said the invitation stipulated a 15-minute limit to discuss a possible $8-million project that would affect the future of the City for a long time; and at that time a letter was sent to the Committee giving their recommendations and all the objections to the outlined, pre -selected target, which they alleged, was selected prior to community input; he received a letter from the Redevelopment Agency requesting he appear before the City Council to outline the objections by C.A.S.A. Justicia; that is why he is here tonight; he would like everyone to understand their concerns; they still feel the pre -selected target area should not be the area that is being considered for the application; they also object to the procedure used in coming up with the pre -selected target area which he was sure Council would approve as presented; and, if so, their association would protest this to the highest levels; he would be happy to answer any questions. Councilman Dalla said in Mr. Baca's letter of December 20, protesting the appli- cation made to HUD, as of today the City has not made an application. Mr. Baca said that is correct; he corrected that and stated that it was a plan that they thought at the time was an application; he was confident that tonight that plan will become the application. Council- man Dalla asked if because there is a question, as far as C.A.S.A. Justicia is concerned, that the proper target area was not selected, is it more important to you to stop the entire project and jeopardize the entire grant rather than have the project go forward at all? Mr. Baca said their objections were that the pre -selected target is totally out of line with the intent and spirit of the HUD Housing and Urban Redevelopment Act of 1974; they have outlined some recommenda- tions; they have outlined some target areas as far as alternatives to what has been presented; they (C.A.S.A. Justicia) used the General Plan to outline those areas that should be the target areas. Councilman Dalla asked Mr. Baca if he realized that if Council stopped tonight and attempted to incorporate those recommendations, the application would not be submitted in time, which would jeopardize the entire grant pro- gram for National City. Mr. Baca said that is why the issue was raised back in December; the blame for that, the time crisis, should be laid on those people who were responsible for the City's application; and should not rest upon on his organization but on those people responsible for making sure that the most viable plan and application was submitted by the City of National City; this program has been around for the past year and a half; the City of San Diego has known this and there is no reason why the City of National City was unaware of the requirements. Councilman Dalla suggested that instead of writing the letter of protest 2/18/75 197 on December 20, 1974, if Mr. Baca submitted his recommendations at that time there would have been sufficient time to incorporate them and have the Committee consider them. Mr. Baca said as was pointed out in his letter of December 20, the City had the information which was denied to him; at that time, the statement was made that there was no information and, consequently, what were they objecting to? Vice Mayor Camacho asked Redevelopment Agency Executive Director Watts to comment. MERRELL L WATTS, Executive Director, Redevelopment Agency, was present and said his recollection is that there were two articles in the Star News --articles having been written after the Chamber of Commerce had invited us (the Agency) to meet with their committees and after Mr. Gerschler had gone over there and suggested to the Chamber oSemmerce that they become interested in this program; these articles 4n the Star News and after that Mr. Baca telephoned him saying, "I want the entire public record so that I can find out what is going on." Mr. Watts said he asked Mr. Baca to come over and talk about it and he said "no" he would make his presentation at public meetings. Mr. Watts said he again asked Mr. Baca to come over and talk about it and he replied that he did noitocfeto do th. eo A ,he would his presentation when and if he choose he UAW' Ift.egica lo get together with him and talk about this whenever he chose weekends, evenings, you name it; Mr. Baca said "no, thank you." Mr. Watts said this is Mr. Baca's .presentation and he is sorry Council invited him up to speak; he has interrupted Mr. Baca's presentation. This was his recollection. Mr. Baca said he would like to present his side to this; at that time, back in December, as Council well knows, this is a very complicated program and is not understood by too many people; facts are given; it is full of bureaucratic language that heaven knows who can understand; but at that time, one thing was certain to them --it must be understood, first, that he was speaking as the head of an organization; there are regulations that the chairman must follow; second, there were these newspaper articles and some of the limited information they had received from the City of San Diego through other public agencies stated that --this is the information they had at that time --Section 104, Application and Review Requirements, Applicant must: (1) (a) identify community development needs and, prior to submitting application, provide information to citizens who likely will be affect, (b) hold public hearings and, (c) provide opportunity for citizen participation in developing the application and specify long term objectives in the development of the plan; if Council should inquire into the procedures followed by the City of San Diego, Council would find a totally different procedure was followed in coming up with their application; at that time also there were newspaper articles. Mr. Baca continued he did not call Mr. Watts; he called the Redevelop- ment Agency to get public information. Mr. Baca said Mr. Cooper was quoted in the San Diego Union, dated December 17, 1974, "Mr. Watts approached the Chamber (of Commerce) about four weeks ago and asked for suggestions and citizens' input into the suggested Center City development program; then he received a proposal from him last Tuesday and there was no time to review it before it went to the City Council." Mr. Baca said he did know what this problem involved; that is between the City Council and the Chamber of Commerce; C.A.S.A. Justicia is objecting that Chapter 7 of the General Plan should be the target area, not Chapter 5; Chapter 7, Housing and Residential Neighborhoods, you have maps in there; there are conclusive recommendations and inquiries made into the type of housing, the overcrowded conditions and what has to be done to give National City the type of housing for the amount of money that is being offered by this program; it should be understood you have $761,000 for five years; the discretionary funds are very, very questionable at this time; that is the $5-million that everyone is talking about; all one has to do is look at the census tract of 1970 and see the bad social conditions that National City is in as well as the unemployment rate, the housing, the overcrowded housing conditions the owner -occupancy and all one has to do is look at the map and see that the block grant program is going into a commercial area; he was sure that when these objections are raised to HUD, there will be a lot 2/18n5 198 of questions asked by HUD concerning this application. Mr. Baca said he is not and does not claim to be qualified to have the expertise and resources the City has, but there is a commitment on their part to try to upgrade the quality of life for the lower income persons within the City; they have tried to outline some areas that they felt would give the City a viable application; the only thing is this: use the General Plan, but use Chapter 7 instead of Chapter 5. Mr. Baca read from the National City General Plan, Chapter 5, Page 40, "The Concept, Realignment of land uses and activities in the present Kimball Park - South Bay Plaza area of the City is an essential component of the plan to create a National City Center. Certain spatial relationships, however, should remain constant. The most important relationship, and the one that the new City Center would seek to highlight, is one which can be created by linking the Civic Center on the west to the Montgo- mery Ward shopping area on the east and also to the area extending from Highland Avenue to 1-805. Connecting these focal points and the areas intervening and adjacent to them into a City Center will involve two different but complementary uses: an imaginatively designed, attractively developed open space corridor connecting the two major activity areas, interwoven with land uses such as offices, a community service center and the like. The intent is to provide an attractive and intensively used center, combining many of the activity and service needs of the community." Mr. Baca said basically, what you are talking about is a commercial area; they do not feel that the target area should be the Center City area; it should be and the Plan should follow Chapter 7, instead of Chapter 5. Councilman Pinson asked Mr. Baca if he understood that the Committee that worked on this and the Council both stipulated that these boundaries are not firm; they can be changed at any time; but it is necessary that boundaries be outlined in time for the application. Do you still want to junk this program? Mr. Baca said if it is going to follow the target area that has been outlined which they believe is contrary to the spirit and intent of the HUD guidelines, then the answer has to be yes. Mayor Morgan said he was sure if what Mr. Baca claims is true, the City will not get the money anyway; if the City does get it, it was because it was legal, otherwise the City won't get it. Mr. Baca can go ahead and attempt to stop National City from getting $5-million; he, the Mayor, is not going to try to stop him. Mr. Baca corrected the figure to $3-million; the other $5-million is very questionable; he thinks it is the respon- sibility of the City Council to look at some of the action that has been taken to find out and not to lay the blame on an organization that is trying to recommend a viable plan; but it should also be understood the problem of a Community Development program is the development of viable urban communities; he asked how this can be done in an area that has been designated commercial by the City...including decent housing and a suitable living environment and expanding economic opportunities for persons of low and moderate income; all one has to do is look at the map --but how many people live on National Avenue? how many people live in Kimball Park? how many people live in South Bay Plaza? Mont- gomery Wards? those are the areas you are talking about; and this is the primary objective of the Block Grant Program; so basically, he does not think the blame should be placed on those who are seeking to recommend something viable, but on those that, he assumes, he can only assume, the City Council and others on the part of the Citizens' Committee because he really questions their ability to understand this mass of information in such a short period of time; he also questions their ability to gather adequate community input to what is best for National City in that limited amount of time, two meetings; and now, Council has two meetings; basically, whoever it is, whether it is the bureaucrats of the City, what the City is going to get; they object to that; they are going to protest it. Mayor Morgan said Council appreciates Mr. Baca's coming out to the meeting. Councilman Dalla said he has two more questions; the time situationl • as Mr. Baca stated is the fault of the City; the City has known about this for a long time and these things should have been done a long time ago; his question now is why has Mr. Baca waited until the last public hearing, 2/18/75 199 the day Council is considering the approval or rejection of the plan, to present his recommendations, alternatives and proposed program? Mr. Baca said that is not true; their recommendations, if you read the letter --there has been a lot of correspondence between the Citizens' Committee and their organization --if you read the February 5, 1975 letter you will find that they did offer some recommendations. Council- man Dalla said Mr. Baca did not feel it was sufficiently important to appear. Mr. Baca asked "for fifteen minutes?" why the time limit? he cannot understand this; if the committee was really and truly seeking community input, why this stipulation? Councilman Dalla said he thinks Mr. Baca's recommendations are not so complicated that they could not be presented in fifteen minutes. Mr. Baca said he feels there is a principle involved; they had gone to a lot of trouble, a lot of work in trying to present a positive recommendation and then be insulted by being allowed only fifteen minutes to make the presentation; this sounds like a real railroad job to him. Vice Mayor Camacho said he believes that if this is granted to the City, if the City is given the opportunity to go ahead and do this, he is sure there are going to be a number of months, perhaps a year before ground is broken; within that time, there could be very much participation by C.A.S.A. Justicia and by any citizen who would care to come and say, "I feel that this should be like this or this should be like that"; a lot of things could be changed; the City is not going to get the money and build it right there and then; there will be a lot of discussion, hearings and a lot of citizen participation; what Council is trying to do now is to attempt to get the grant; there has been only a certain amount of time in which to do this; they just went ahead and did it, whether Mr. Baca likes it or whether he, Vice Mayor Camacho, likes it or not; this is what has to be done; this is what Council voted on; the Council is hoping that you can, after acceptance --if it is not accepted, then forget about it; no one will take any part in it --nevertheless he is sure that this organization will have all the time in the world to come in before this group and speak their piece and make recommenda- tions into this block grant program. Mayor Morgan asked Mr. Baca to outline the areas he would cover if the choice of the area were his? Mr. Baca said without reading all the letters, he would be taking things out of context; they made some various recommendations according to the census tract; he would like to address himself to Mr. Camacho. Mr. Baca said No. 1, he thinks they are at the ground floor, so to speak; what they are objecting to is that a designated area has been selected --a target area to work within; now, if this can be changed, why not just leave the area open? or, why not designate another area? Councilman Camacho said it is just one of those things. Mr. Baca said well that remains to be seen; there is a certain thing, once you get things in motion; what they are saying is you are on the ground floor right now; they are objecting to the pre -selected target area, as we call it, and No. 2, the procedure used in selecting that area. Mayor Morgan asked Mr. Baca to explain the tracts, the boundaries that he would propose; so the audience would know the boundaries he proposes. (Mr. Baca displayed a map taken from the National City General Plan) Mr. Baca said he does not claim to be an expert but basically their protest was that other groups, there are plenty of other groups... City Attorney McLean said according to the letter dated February 5, 1975, on page 3, subparagraph b, it says that your opinion is that the area should be the area west of National Avenue, north of 18th Street to 8th Street, north up to Division, to Interstate 805 east. (Inaudi- ble as several are talking at the same time.) Mr. Baca said...Chapter 7, that is a rough recommendation to provoke some dialogue on the subject; bascially, if you look at the census tract, this area is in need of housing; this area is in need of housing; and all you have to do is look at Chapter 7 and basically he feels what has to be under- stood is that if it is legal, as you stated, you have nothing to worry about; but, if it was not done according to the guidelines, then there is plenty to worry about and if that is the case, he would not think that organizations such as his should be made the scapegoat; there are some very high-priced people working within the City and he feels they 2/18/75 200 should be asked what really is the purpose of the plan. Mayor Morgan said after looking at this letter from Mr. Baca the area Mr. Baca proposes is almost identical to that proposed for the application; Mr. Baca's letter states he would like to begin at 18th Street and go to 8th Street on the north and go to 805 going east --what the staff proposes is to start at 18th Street and go to 8th Street but this plan goes on National Avenue from "A" Avenue to Roosevelt all the way to Division Street and comes back following 8th Street and goes out to 805; the only difference he can see is that Mr. Baca proposes north on 8th Street from "A?' Avenue to Roosevelt to Division Street and then on 18th Street --we come up 18th Street then we drop back to 15th Street and go on out to 805; there is not 25 acres difference between the proposals. Mr. Baca said that again is a matter of opinion; in their opinion, there is a great deal of difference; he came tonight to try explain the letters they have written; many letters, many questions have been raised; the only reason he did make a presentation before the Citizens' Committee was the fifteen minute limitation and that is no way; he would like to ask the City Council how many organizations got invited that have an interest in low and moderate income persons... Councilman Pinson said he does not think any personal invitations were issued to anyone„ (several talking at once) Councilman Pinson con- tinued...Council appointed a Citizens' Committee to work on this and anyone has the right to come up and speak to that Committee; if they allow everyone who comes up speak several hours or even an hour; they would be tied up for clays. Mr. Baca said that is the price of democracy. Vice Mayor Camacho said the hearings have been advertised; if the citizens do not care to participate in the hearings it is not the fault of the Council; it is believed that no one wants to come before the Council to express their feelings on the...Councilman Pinson said he feels that there are some pretty intelligent citizens on that committee; they worked very diligently on this plan and you are saying they did not do their job; you are saying that you did a better job than they did. Mr. Baca said what he was saying was that in two meetings, he does not see how it could be possible and the procedure that was used --double check with some of the other cities and you will find that is is far from adequate, in their opinion... Councilman Pinson asked what makes Mr. Baca's opinion better than that Citizens' Committee's. That, Mr. Baca said, is a matter of opinion also; he did not come here to argue or to downgrade anyone; he came here tonight to address himself to this issue; basically that is all he wanted to state; if there are any questions --it is unfortunate that's the price of a democracy that one has to go out and solicit citizens' input. Mayor Morgan said he would like to say to Mr. Baca before he leaves the microphone; if he were proposing this when it first came up and they selected the location as closely as they have --what Council is voting on tonight --to his recommendation, then he would feel like he had accomplished something because --he realizes Mr. Baca does not feel that way --but what Council is voting on tonight is almost identical to what Mr. Baca is recommending; the difference is between "A" Avenue and Roosevelt Avenue north of 8th Street; you didn't recommend that; you recommended you start up at National Avenue and go out 18th Street out to 805; when we get up here to "CS4 and drop over to 15th Street and go on out to 805; I mean it is almost identical to what you propose; if we changed this and go right on out 18th Street, we would have exactly what you have recommended except for this up here. Mr. Baca said there is a great amount of difference ---coming up from 24th, coming in like that up to 8th coming in at the South Bay Plaza, Kimball Park going back down at National; we have going up from 8th...(Mayor Morgan said 8th Street to 805)...Mr. Baca said to 805 okay coming up back to Division, coming in and taking in the west side. Mayor Morgan said Mr. Baca did not put that in this letter here. Mr. Baca said this is why so many inquiries were made, (several talking at once) Vice Mayor Camacho said we have a way to change too. Mr. Baca said it always seems that when they come here they are always on the opposite side of the fence no matter what is done; they have taken the time out to come here tonight and try to give some positive recommendations and obviously, 2/13/75 201 he has a sneaking suspion that no matter what they say, what they do, roveu the plan that Counci1/5g k in December is going to be approved tonight no matter what anybody says and, gentlemen, we are off on different points again. Councilman Pinson said he would like to make one more statement; all right, why don't you put your proposal in writing, your exact proposal of where you want these boundaries to be made and pre- sent them to that Citizens' Committee; we have to get this application in and we have left a loophole open where we can change this boundary anytime we want to; now, Mr. Watts will testify to this; the Citizens' Committee will testify to this; it is in the minutes of both the Citizens' Committee and the Council that this boundary can be changed any time; why don't you put this down in writing and send it to these two bodies and let them work this out and maybe at the next public hearing of the Citizens' Committee this thing could be changed to satisfy your needs. Mr. Baca said he does not think he is the issue. (several talking) Mr. Baca said he did present them in black and white and, you know, in hopes that the other had not been approved; he thinks one of the things as far as the procedure, what do youasan by proce- dure? Councilman Pinson said Mr. Baca started out on/negative side; you said you were going to protest to HUD; you did not even present your case before you sent the letter out protesting to HUD. Mr. Baca said that can be turned around because one morning he woke up and found a newspaper saying that the procedure that was established by HUD was being followed and vested interested groups are being asked their opinion of this matter and he is saying, if Mr. Watts can go down to the Chamber of Commerce, he can go up to any federation; he can go into every community and do the same thing and be fair and equal about it. Councilman Pinson said this one councilman, if you will; reduce this to writing that you would like this boundary to be moved over say to this block and this block, I will definitely consider it when it comes before this body. Mr. Baca said he understood Mr. Pinson and Mr. Redevelopment Agency could send the application; he could make recommendations but he is not here as an expert; he would never try to put on that he was an expert in the complicated bureaucratic mess, okay; the only thing is they have tried to get some recommendations, and, because of the lack of sensitivity or whatever, we have fifteen minutes, come in we gotta get going and bla, bla, bla that's it; listen, we took a lot of time; there is another side to this; he did not come here negatively; when they first started out, he pointed out that they wanted the best viable application for the City of National City; they still hold to that position; now, it is not negative; from their perspective it is very, very positive. Councilman Pinson said a posi- tive approach tonight because you have had more than fifteen minutes. Mr. Baca said in that case if there are no other questions, then... Councilman Dalla said to Mr. Baca, before you go, you are interested in the community or you would not be here tonight; he does not think anyone would argue with that; what he would like made clear to him is that because this block application or grant application in your opinion emphasizes one chapter of the General Plan over another chapter of the General Plan, you think it is in the best interests of the community to do everything you possibly can to see that we do not get any money? Mr. Baca said well, if you can put it in that tone; he thinks that what they are saying is there should be another objective rather than the objective that you have now which they feel is very, very negative; they are saying why don't you look at it; if he can take the time to read this and someone is being paid $20,000 to $25,000 a year, there shouldn't be any reason why they can't figure out and come to the same conclusions they, C.A.S.A. Justicia, did. Councilman Dalla said Mr. Baca talks about this being very complicated and bureau- cratic mess and a lot of language that not many people understand, he thinks that the City of San Diego and the City of Chula Vista and a lot of other cities knew for a fact a long time ago that the way things were going they would qualify for this money; he thinks that HUD final- ized certain guidelines, he may not get the month just right, somewhere around November which made it possible for National City to qualify; so, San Diego and lot of other cities had quite a bit of a head start 2/18/75 202 on this. Mr. Baca said he agrees. Councilman Dalla said National City did not...(Councilman Dalla and Mr. Baca speaking at once) Mr. Baca said...are right; he is not going to argue that point; we can go back that this was the day involved bla, bla, bla; but, what he is saying is that if the City has a good Agency on the ball, they should have known...Councilman Dalla said don't you think it is important now to get the application in and work with it. (Councilman Dalla and Mr. Baca speaking at once) Councilman Dalla said...would you just as soon see it denied? you said you are going to protest it...Mr. Baca said he believes that the plan that you approved back in December you are going to approve tonight, so... Mayor Morgan thanked Mr. Baca and said he had forty-five minutes. The Mayor asked if there was anyone else to speak? Moved by Pinson, seconded by Camacho, the public hearing be closed and the proposed application for the Federal Citizens Block Grant Program be approved. Executive Director, Redevelopment Agency Watts came forward and said last week there was a summary sheet that was presented by Mr. Peterson (Assistant Director, Redevelopment Agency); the left-hand side indicated what was suggested to the Citi- zens, Committee and on the right hand side was the Citizens' Committee action; the Citizens' Committee recommendations are different from those which are suggested so if Council action is to be taken,Council should decide which way Council wants to go. Motion and second with- drawn. Mr. Watts said the application as suggested to the Citizens' Committee includes the development of approximately 200 dwelling units of citizens, the Citizens' Committee concurred in that recommendation; the next item was approximately 100 dwelling units to be constructed for persons of low and moderate incomes including some very large bedroom units for large families, the CitizensCommittee concurred with that recommendation; the third recommendation was that there be some neighborhood improvement programs which would include spot clear- ance, improvements of the physical environment as well as possibly loans and maybe even hardship grants for the remodeling and rehabili- tation of dwelling units, the Citizens' Committee concurred with that suggestion; there was another suggestion that a building be purchased or remodeled or constructed for a multi -purpose Community Service Facility and the Citizens' Committee concurred with that suggestion; there were two other suggestions which had to do with historical preservation, remodeling and the Citizens' Committee felt that they couldn't enthusiastically endorse that; they suggested, however, that the Community attempt to find funds from other sources to concentrate on historical preservation; they suggested that if additional monies could be procured through the discretionary grant monies they would prefer to see Item No. 3 in terms of priority emphasized rather than historical preservation (that would be improvement of neighborhoods and remodeling of dwelling units); Items 5 and 6 on this very, very brief abbreviated outlined have been presented to Council from the Citizens' Committee with modifications and Council should be clearly aware of that. Mayor Morgan said if there were other monies to come this would not necessarily restrict going ahead with the historical preservation? Executive Director Watts said definitely not; the Redevelopment Agency's suggestion to Council, through the City Manager's office, by memo dated February 12, was that the appli- cation be filed indicating that we believe strongly in historical preservation activities but that we would seek funds from whatever sources and that we would not identify them at this point and time that we would use these particular block monies for historical preser- vation. Mayor Morgan said if Council closed the hearing and adopts the summary sheet, dated February 11, 1975; would that cover everything needed? City Attorney McLean said he has a resolution to present. Councilman Dalla said we are talking about possible funding for his- torical preservation and this sort of thing; everyone talks about this being complicated and bureaucratic and difficult to understand; but, he is under the impression that with this block grant program that the Federal Funds for different projects that used to be available aren't going to be as plentiful anymore because they are going to be giving the money to the cities to do whatever they have to do; so that, you know, maybe a few years ago there were types of federal programs for -~75 203 historical preservation, programs for neighborhoods, programs for a variety of things; with this block grant program, there might not be as many of those funds period; we might be looking for something that doesn't exist; he is just asking for a comment if Mr. Watts would care to comment on it. Redevelopment Agency Executive Director Watts said in the first place funds for historical preservation always have been difficult to obtain; there have been two sources at the Federal level that he knows of, and he is not very knowledgeable on these matters; he thinks there has been one possible source at the State level; all of these sources are drying up; they are always drying up; everytime the U. S. Congress passes a bill and the President signs it, because they modify the conceptual approach; the prospects for obtaining funds for historical preservation are, in fact, limited; and, they are more limited as a result of this particular law than was the case previously; there are funds available hypothetically from the Historical Aid Society at the Federal level; hypothetically, there is one fund avail- able at the State level; but, these are very hypothetical and one just really can't rely on them so what the Agency is suggesting to the Council is that if Council happens to agree with the Citizens' Committee that historical preservation should be a lesser priority than neighbor- hood development that the application to the Federal government would not eliminate historical preservation as a goal, it would simply indicate that, at this point, you prefer to seek funds at whatever level and whatever source you can; and, at this point in time you prefer to emphasize other goals; that is just a suggestion in keeping with the Citizens' Advisory Committee recommendations. Councilman Dalla said you have the Community Service Building and it is designated more or less as a discretionary funds application; it is coming from discretionary funds; if Council includes historical as a desirable item but not something we are going to push right now, that would also be discretionary, under discretionary funds, is that right? Redevelop- ment Agency Executive Director Watts said not necessarily, that is not what we are saying; we are saying that you should address yourselves in this application to, first of all, where do you want to spend your block grant money? secondly, you indicate a long-term goal to apply for a certain discretionary funds for certain kinds of activities; and, if, in your wisdom, you elect to indicate that there are other activi- ties that you wish to pursue but not necessarily limiting yourself to HUD funds, that is another alternative. Councilman Dalla said he was sort of curious and he read the minutes for the CitizensCommittee; he did not recall having seen conversation that took place concerning the Community Service Building as opposed to historical preservation of Brick Row; in other words, he does not know, he does not guess it was a trade off but the Community Service Building was something that came in a little bit later; the historical preservation of Brick Row has been there for a long, long time. Mr. Watts said that may be so but that was not his recollection; his recollection of what happened was that various memoranda were written to the Citizens' Committee discussing various things; they approved or disapproved certain items; when they got to historical preservation they found that they were at the bottom of the Agency recommendations in terms of time to be dis- cussed and certain Committee members on their own initiative suggested that they felt that neighborhood improvement was more important to the overall goals and needs of the community; so, on their own initiative, they sought to have historical preservation reduced to the lesser or nonexistent priority; his recollection was that a memorandum summarizing what the Citizens Advisory Committee did was written by Mr. Ballard, but in the drafting he neglected, or omitted, or by oversight forgot to mention this Community Service Building; and when it was called to his attention he added it at the bottom of the memo for convenience, prob- ably of the typist; that was his recollection. Councilman Dalla asked if the Community Services program have a certain priority; we are talking about historical in terms of priority with neighborhood improvement; where is the need for the building...the Community Service Building in terms of priority, is that ahead of neighborhood improve- ment. Mr. Watts said very low priority. Councilman Dalla repeated 2/18/75 204 very low priority, okay. Redevelopment Agency Executive Director Watts said they listed them in terms of priority on this summary sheet, A-1, A-2, A-3, A--4, A--5, A-.6; those are the priorities suggested by the Committee. Councilman Reid said he has one question; Merrell, on the boundaries, they are not concrete. Mr. Watts said may I answer that with a one -sentence answer; they are not concrete now, Mr. Reid; but, if you do certain studies and analyses in the first year and you determine what you want to do; then you ought to make a decision; you ought to stand by it and you ought to go ahead; but for the moment the boundaries of that project are not concrete. Councilman Reid asked if this money on this resolution can that be changed for projects and he would like to ask Don (City Attorney McLean) if he has in that resolu- tion, five and six showing money for the Brick Row? does it state that? does it say it is to be used for that if we get this money? Mr. Watts asked if he may answer that question; he would like to take that in two parts: one the application and the second you mentioned the word resolution; the application that you submit talks about these elements one, what do you think your needs are for a three-year program? what you would like to do in three years? and thirdly, what would you like to do the first year? fourthly, where you want to spend your money the first year? every year you are obligated to submit a new application and every year you re -state your three-year goals, your one-year goals and your first -year budget; so, you cannot each year subsequent to the first, modify the program to such an extent that it bears no relation- ship to what has gone on before; but, you can modify it so long as you are continuing to work toward your ultimate goals; you can modify your budget so long as you are still continuing to work toward your ultimate objectives; you can't spend money the first year and then change course completely and go to work on a different program because obviously they wouldn't think that was a practical, logical program. Mayor Morgan said we have a resolution that is to be adopted. Mr. Watts said the resolution does not talk about where to spend the money. Mayor Morgan said that is right. Councilman Reid said that is what he wants to know, thank you. Councilman Pinson said he likes the priorities you have here. No one else was present in this regard. Mayor Morgan asked for a motion to adopt this by title only. City Clerk Campbell asked if the hearing could be closed. Moved by Camacho, seconded by Reid, to close this hearing and adhere to all the stipulations and close the hearing. Carried by unanimous vote. Moved by Camacho, seconded by Pinson, the resolution be presented to Council by title only. Carried by unanimous vote. RESOLUTION NO. 11,693, "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY APPROVING AN APPLICATION FOR FEDERAL ASSISTANCE PURSUANT TO THE U. S. HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ACT OF 1974 AND AUTHO- RIZING AND DIRECTING THE MAYOR TO FILE SAID APPLICATION ON BEHALF OF THE CITY." Moved by Camacho, seconded by Reid, Resolution No. 11,693 be adopted. Carried by unanimous vote. City Attorney McLean said the Council on its record should reflect the fact that it had received a report from the City's Environmental Impact Committee concerning the environmental consequences of the making of this application (Document No. 55288). Mayor Morgan asked for a motion. Moved by Camacho, seconded by Pinson, the record reflect that the City Council has received the report of the City's Environmental Impact Committee on this "Blocks Grants" application, and has considered its contents in reaching a decision on the application. Carried by unanimous vote. INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCES Moved by Pinson, seconded by Camacho, these ordinances be presented to Council for first reading by title only. Carried by unanimous vote. Ordinance No. 2/18/75-1, "An Ordinance Amending Ordinance No. 962, Zoning Ordinance of the City of National City, California to Provide Locational Criteria, Development Standards, and Operational Standards for Off -Street Parking Lots Open to the Public." 2/18/75 205 Ordinance No. 2/1E05-2, "An Ordinance Amending Ordinance No. 962, Zoning Ordinance of the City of National. City, California (ZC-11-74, to rezone property on the south side of 8th between Palm and 'R' Avenues excepting therefrom the corner parcel at 8th and Palm from C-2 to C-2-PD)." REPORT OF CITY ATTORNEY - None. REFERRALS Memo from Councilman Dalla, dated November 18, 1974, regarding FIRE HYDRANT LOCATION IDENTIFICATION; memos from Fire Chief K. E. Joyce and former Asst. City Manager S. T. Stenberg in that regard; and Asst. City Manager Tom G. McCabe's memo recommending that if Council adopts the proposed fire hydrant location identification program, that based on cost of implementation, staff be directed to include it as a planned project in the coming fiscal year budget were presented. Moved by Pinson, seconded by Camacho, this be tabled for one week. Carried by unanimous vote. UNFINISHED BUSINESS The City Engineer's recommendation that CASA DE SALUD CONTRACT be executed on February 24, 1975 with George Taylor Construction Company and the City Manager's recommendation that action on Casa de Salud contract be DEFERRED for a minimum of six months were presented. Moved by Reid, seconded by Pinson, in favor of the City Manager's recommendation and that all bids be rejected (amended motion). Carried by unanimous vote. NEW BUSINESS An application by HARRY G. STONE, DBA STONEY'$, 108 West 25th Street, Units F and G, for new on -sale beer license; the Police Chief's memo recommending the application be protested and the Planning Department memo stating the subject property is zoned M-1 and that the sale of alcoholic beverages would be permissible in the zone if the type license issued would insure the sale of alcoholic beverages only in conjunction with a restaurant; this would appear to require a Type 41, on -sale beer and wine, bona fide eating place license were presented. There was discussion. Moved by Pinson, seconded by Reid, the appli-. cation be protested. Carried by unanimous vote. The request by City Treasurer/Finance Director fwasor Cmcil ratification _,r swytect of PAYMENT OF BILLS in the amount of $61,435.7-1/4 Mo e by Pinson, seconded by Camacho, the bills be ratified. Carried by the following vote, to -wit: Ayes: Camacho, Dalla, Pinson, Reid, Morgan, Nays: None. City Clerk Campbell said the next Item (Item 22), the City Manager's recommendation that Council go on record in opposition to S. B. 275, was acted upon under Adoption of Resolutions, Resolution No. 11,700 (Page 194, Paragraph 8). A request by the NATIONAL CITY JAYCEES for free use of the Main Hall in Kimball Park Community Building on March 23, 1975, 7:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m., for MISS NATIONAL CITY CONTEST and the Asst. City Manager's recommendation this be granted subject to filing of formal application with the Parks and Recreation Department and with the understanding that custodial fees are to be paid by the Jaycees were presented. Moved by Camacho, seconded by Pinson, this recommendation be approved. Carried by unanimous vote. Recommendations by the TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE at the February 12 meeting were presented individually: (A) The southbound LEFT -TURN POCKET AT 30TH AND HIGHLAND be extended 2/18/75 206 to 28th Street. Moved by Pinson, seconded by Dalla, in favor of Item A. Carried by unanimous vote. There was discussion. (B) The PROPOSED SIGNAL. AT 2ND AND HIGHLAND BE DELAYED pending an analysis of the effect of a new signal at Division and Highland. There was discussion. Mayor Morgan appointed Vice Mayor Camacho and Council- man Reid to study and report. (C) A STREET LIGHT BE INSTALLED AT 12TH AND PARADISE and a WARNING SIGN BE INSTALLED on the steep grade of PARADISE DRIVE north of the sharp curve. Moved by Pinson, seconded by Camacho, in favor of Item C. There was discussion. Carried by unanimous vote. (D) The BUS STOP on Highland Avenue north of 16th be relocated to its previous location south of 16th Street. There was discussion. Moved by Reid, seconded by Camacho, Item D be approved. Carried by unani- mous vote. (E) All SPEED LIMIT SIGNS in SCHOOL AREAS be brought up to code requirements (25 m.p.h.). Moved by Pinson, seconded by Reid, in favor of Item E. There was discussion. Carried by unanimous vote. (F) The ORDINANCE dealing with PARKING IN ALLEYS be clarified as to whether posting of "no parking" is necessary or not. City Engineer Hoffland said there was some discussion on whether it is necessary to post an alley for no parking or not; one section of the ordinance refers to parking prohibition in all alleys and another section indi- cates posting is necessary; the Committee felt that the ordinance should be updated and rewritten to delete any ambiguities. There was discussion. Moved by Morgan, seconded by Pinson, to file Item F on the Traffic Safety Agenda. There was discussion as to the clarifica- tion of the ordinance. Motion to file failed by the following vote, to -wit: Ayes: Pinson, Morgan. Nays: Camacho, Dalla, Reid. Moved by Reid, seconded by Camacho, the City Manager have the alleys posted as he gets to them; he cannot go out and have every alley posted in one day; he is to use his own judgment. There was discussion regarding the cost of posting alleys. City Attorney McLean said the question being asked is whether you want to leave a blanket prohibition against parking in alleys and not require posting of no parking signs. Moved by Dalla, seconded by Camacho, to amend motion to leave the blanket prohibition of parking in alleys and not post every alley. Amendment to the motion failed by a 3-2 vote. Original motion to post all alleys failed by the following vote, to -wit: Ayes: Camacho, Reid. Nays: Dalla, Pinson, Morgan. Recommendation by Executive Director, Redevelopment Agency, that City Attorney, Redevelopment Director and other appropriate persons be authorized to officially contact the Board of Supervisors to indicate National City's interest in assisting County to locate a site for construction of a COURT COMPLEX in the downtown area was presented. Moved by Reid, seconded by Pinson, in favor of the Executive Director's recommendation. Carried by unanimous vote. The City Engineer's recommendation the City request CALTRANS to overlay DIVISION STREET FROM PALM AVENUE to the improved section to the east and that the ASPHALT SIDEWALK be extended from Palm and Division to El Toyon School was presented. Moved by Morgan, seconded by Pinson, to put this on next week's agenda. Carried by unanimous vote. Proposed SENATE BILL 312, exempting work experience program employees from PERS; letters from City Clerk, City of Sonoma, California, (attaching City of Sonoma Resolution No. 8-75); and Senator John F. Dun- lap in this regard; and the Assistant City Manager's memo recommending this be filed were presented. Moved by Dalla, seconded by Pinson, this be filed. Carried by unanimous vote. Requests by NATIONAL CITY COMMUNITY RODEO ASSOCIATION, INC., for waiver of fees for the following: (a) use of Kimball Park and its facilities September 20 and 21, (b) Carnival February 24 - March 4 at South Bay Plaza (to co-sponsor), (c) Carnival March 26 - March 30 at South Bay Plaza (with Christinson Carnival), and (d) use of Community Building, 2/18/75 207 including kitchen facilities, on September 12 were presented. Moved by Camacho, seconded by Pinson, in favor of the Community Rodeo Associa- tion's request and on Item la) the use of Kimball Park and its facilities include the removal of the dirt and all costs be adhered by the City. Councilman Dalla said he does not know if it is better to do it that way or to wait; this is giving them blanket approval -- approve all costs; if they incur some costs other than the $600 that... Vice Mayor Camacho said only the dirt. Carried by unanimous vote. City Attorney McLean asked if any member of Council belongs to the Rodeo Association? None belonged. The request by MAYTIME BAND REVIEW COMMITTEE for City to advertise in their program book; last year's ad was $400 for inside front page and color was presented. Moved by Pinson, seconded by Camacho, in favor of the request and the funds be taken from budgeted Account 506-805 (amended motion). City Attorney McLean determined no member of the Council belonged to this organization. Carried by unanimous vote. REPORTS Asst. City Manager McCabe said he had nothing to report. The City Treasurer -Finance Director FINANCIAL. STATEMENT for period ending January 31, 1975, was presented. Ordered filed by unanimous vote. COUNCIL COMMUNICATIONS MAYOR MORGAN said they are talking about closing out the ships (U. S. N. Mothball fleet) in National City, the old junkers; it is time now for the City Manager and the Planning Director to get to work down there; let's try to get National Steel down here to build ships in this area; this would not be just along the dock there --last time he met with Van (Congressman Van Deerlin) and the Manager they said, "Well, my command just comes back to the fence..." The next time we are going to have two commands; there will be that command and the guys that have control of that all the way back to Harbor Drive; that would be suffi- cient area to put that shipyard in there; perhaps there could be a fishing pier, a recreation area; this shipyard is needed down here; he will be working on this project. Councilman Dalla said he brought this up about 3 weeks ago and did not get a nibble. Moved by Camacho, seconded by Pinson, the meeting be closed. Carried by unanimous vote. The meeting closed at 9:10 p.m. City0 lerk Ci y of Nation City, California The foregoing minutes were approved by the City Council of the City of National City at the regular meeting of February 25, 1975. 0 No corrections Corrections as notedAbimboax on Page 208. Mayor, fcaty of ational City, California 2 /9 1 8 / 7 5 208 Correct Paragraph 2, Page 194, as follows: The final sentence, "There was further discussion," should be deleted and the follow- ing added in its place, "Planning Director Gerschler said (in answer to the Mayor) when they bring in their building plans, the staff would see that this plan is followed. Councilman Dalla said in the General Plan, under Appendix B, it refers to various parks that are designated in the General Plan; this particular piece of property is designated for tiny tots play area, picnic area and some sort of a means to tie in with the adjacent neighborhood park; showing in this builder's plan as being green and being maintained does not make it a public park that the public necessarily has the right to use. Mayor Morgan said he was a little disturbed when he saw this; it came before Council and this Council made the decision that, if those people in the canyon would donate their land --they were given 2 or 3 or 4 months to obtain signatures of those people over there willing to donate land --the City would dedicate land for a park; has anything been received from those people down there in this regard? Planning Director Gerschler said no, he has received nothing. Councilman Reid said he and the Mayor can- vassed just about every house in the entire area over there and nine out of ten of those contacted said they did not want a park in there; that was when the City proposed to build a public works yard there. Mayor Morgan said when the City proposed to build a public works yard, it was understood and agreed upon that the City would dedicate the City owned portion down in the valley and make a park and maintain it at City expense from the public works yard all the way to 'B' Avenue; the people in the area signed a petition against this. Mr. Gerschler said they certainly did." 2/18/75