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MINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED MEETING OF DECEMBER 12, 1967
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY, CALIFORNIA
December 14, 1967
The adjourned meeting of the City Council of the City of National City
was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Mayor Morgan. Council members
present: Colburn, Harris, Reid, Morgan. Council members absent:
Hogue.
CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Attaway, Niederfrank, Camacho.
Commission members absent: Knight, McKinney.
ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICIALS present: Deputy City Clerk Fasig, Linn,
Osburn.
CITY MANAGER OSDURN introduced Warren F. Schwegel, Survey Director,
and Merle F. Hauser, Survey Analyst, who made the classification and
salary survey for the City of National City under a contract between
the City of National City and the State Personnel Board. Mr. Schwegel
said the two reports presented earlier in the day represented the end
results in a process which began in the latter part of September, 1967
with distribution of job description forms to employees in the City
service; from that time to this time they had developed a series of
recommendations concerning salary range and classification of various
positions in the City; after the job description forms were distributed
to the employees, each employee described in his own words the duties
and responsibilities which applied to his position; these were reviewed
by the supervisors and forwarded to his office in Sacramento. Mr.
Schwegel continued, after reviewing the job and description forms, he
and Mr. Hauser returned to National City the last week in October and
held personal interviews, individually and in groups, with 101 of the
178 employees whose positions were included in the survey; after
getting a full range of information on the duties and organization of
the various City departments, they then developed a classification which
was a plan describing the various types, levels, duties, and responsi-
bilities; it was composed basically of a group of class specifications;
each of the classes may contain one or more positions; the question
they attempted to resolve and the answer reflected in the various class
specifications was one of degrees of similarity and dissimilarity;
having completed this phase of the survey, Mr. Hauser and he selected
roughly twenty-five classes within the plan which they used as bench
mark classes in collecting salary information from other cities and
public employers in the general Metropolitan San Diego area; on the
basis of their classification findings, they then developed salary
recommendations for each of the classes included in the classification
plan; at this point, they met with City Manager Osburn to discuss their
findings; following this meeting, they completed and prepared for the
Council the Classification and Salary Survey Report which was now before
them. Mr. Schwegel said generally they found most of the positions to
be properly classified; they proposed some changes, new classes, vacant
classes for possible future use, some changes which reflected new org-
anization or re -organization of several departments since the previous
plan was developed and some changes which would provide a more consistent
approach to relationship differentials between classes. Mr. Schwegel
and Mr. Hauser explained changes in classification and salary range for
positions in various -departments and reasons for the changes. Mr.
Hauser said the overall cost of adopting all of the salary recommend-
ations would be approximately 9.5% of the present City payroll. Vice
Mayor Colburn asked in their discussion with the employees and in
creating the values and percentages, what weight was put on the off -
time in the City and had it been included. Mr. Hauser said it had been
included in some cases within the class classification where there was
an employee in a department who was subject to recall; it had not been
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given any weight from the standpoint of the salary range; such items as
overtime, etc, they regard as fringe benefits and should be considered
apart from salary recommendations. Vice Mayor Colburn said in a compar-
ison of the cities, did all cities have the same amount of days off per
year, not counting vacation but counting holidays. Mr. Hauser said once
again this was a matter of fringe benefit and not given any weight.
Mayor Morgan said he noticed the Fire Department and Police Department
still had a difference in pay and inquired what the status was for this.
Mr. Hauser said the status varied state-wide; they collected salary
information for both the Fireman and Police Officer; in analyzing the
salary information they attempted to determine the prevailing differen-
tial, or lack of differential, in similar classes in the survey agencies;
the City presently had a 2-1/2% differential in favor of the Police
Officer Class over the Fireman Class; this differential very well -
matched prevailing practices in the market area; another aspect was that
the City was not experiencing recruiting difficulties in either class;
there were other labor market areas where the differential may be 5% and
there were a few areas where the differential did not exist at all.
Mayor Morgan said the National City Custodians did more than just regular
work and inquired if they realized this when they made the survey. Mr.
Schwegel said from the standpoint of comparing classes and collecting
salary data, in their opinion, for a class to be comparable enough to
collect their data from another agency it had to be comparable in duties
and responsibilities which would vary from one agency to another and from
one individual to another; those duties and responsibilities were
similar enough that an adequate comparison could be done reasonable
through the listed educational, experience, knowledge and ability re-
quirements of the job specification; the recommendation for the Custodian
Class was made in part on the basis of salary data collected from other
agencies within the labor market area; the recommendation puts National
City in approximately the middle of public agency data and matched very
well private industry salary data. Mr. Hauser said they found that the
overall duties of the Custodians were such that they were properly class-
ified. Councilman Reid inquired to whom the information was turned over
after it was received from the enployee. Mr. Schwegel said the forms
were not turned over by them to anyone; they were reviewed by him and
Mr. Hauser and supplemented with information which they obtained by
discussion with the employee. Councilman Reid inquired if they were
changed in any way. Mr. Schwegel said the forms were not changed; the
instructions were given when the forms were passed out; the department
head or supervisor were not allowed to change any of the words of the
employee; there were methods by which either the supervisor or depart-
ment head could indicate he did not agree with what the employee said.
Councilman Reid inquired if anyone else entered into this. Mr. Schwegel
said to his knowledge there were no changes in the description of the
job after the employee edited it; this did not mean the employee was the
sole source of information; they discussed the job with the employee,
supervisor and with the City Administration; the basis of it, however,
was the information given by the employee. Mayor Morgan inquired if
anyone had influenced their thinking on the report. Mr. Schwegel said
not at all; his personal feelings were that the Council had set aside a
certain amount of money to pay Cooperative Personnel Services to make
recommendations based on the consultants' concept of good personnel
practices and not from the standpoint of someone else's concept and not
from the standpoint of whether or not the recommendations could be
afforded; consequently, they were their recommendations only. Council-
man Harris said at the present time there was a difference of 2-I/2%
in the salaries of the Fire Chief and Police Chief and they were propos-
ing the salaries to be equal and inquired if it was generally done. Mr.
Schwegel said with the department head salary data or from the stand-
point of recruiting, you have to look at a wider geographic area; within
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this wider geographic area they found 10 of the survey cities who had
classes comparable to both the Police Chief and Fire Chief; in seven
of these both chiefs were assigned the same salary range; they quest-
ioned this a little further as they realized it was a little different
survey design; they went back to the cities included in the basic
salary survey to see if the existing differential carried on up to the
Chief level; the prevailing practice in the San Diego Labor Market was
that it did not carry on to the Chief level; he found it extremely diffi-
cult at the department head level to measure the difference between
jobs at as fine a line as 2 I/2%. Councilman Reid inquired how they
arrived at the Y Ratings. Mr. Schwegel said the Y Rating may be
arrived at in one or more of several methods; basically, a Y rate
results from consideration of the total acts that go into any -
other classification and salary recommendations. Councilman Harris
said they have proposed the salaries of the Chief of Police and the
Fire Chief be the same; however, there was a difference in the pay of
their Assistant Chiefs when at times they may be performing the
duties of the top man. Mr. Schwegel said this was true; at the
assistant level there was not an adequate enough or consistent enough
description of the jobs throughout the labor market area to collect
any sort of meaningful information; they have related the Assistant to
the lower end of the realm rather than the upper end. Commissioner
Attaway inquired how the salary of the Assistant to the City Manager
was determined. Mr. Schwegel said basically the same factors went
into the classification for his position as to the other department
heads and classes for other employees. Mayor Morgan said before open-
ing the discussion to the audience, he wanted to thank Civil Service
Commissioners Attaway, Niederfrank and Camacho for their presence that
evening. Merrill Stamper, Fire Department employee, inquired if they
thought there should be any bearing made upon the hours worked against
the salaries paid. Mr. Schwegel said actually he thought they were
talking about two different things; if they were to look at the data
on Page 45 for the Fireman, including in your look the salary range
and examine the hours of the work week, there was an almost inverse
relationship; the two agencies having the longest average work week
for Fireman were reflected in the 2nd and 3rd from the bottom of the
tabulation; if there was some inequity in the work week of the firemen
in National City, it was something for the City Council to work out
with the Fire Department; typically, the average work week did not
relate to the -salary range. Mr. Schwegel said in discussing the
class concepts with the department heads, it was made appa e nt to
them that a Fire Engineer was expected to perform the duties of Fire
Captain whenever necessary; when they collected salary information for
classifications, it was included in their -description that the -indi-
viduals were supposed to serve as supervisors on a relief basis. Bill
Wright, President, Fireman's Association, was -present and -presented
copy of a pamphlet, "Inequities of Disparities," to Commissioner
Camacho. Mr. Wright said they felt this was the opportune time to
sHHevteter:the 2 1/2% disparity which had existed for about 2 1/2 years
between the Fire Department and the Police Department; disparity had -
not solved the problem of police recruitment and retention; Workmen's
Compensation Insurance rate in the State of California in 1965 was
$6.35 per $100.00 for firemen compared to $4.50 for policemen. Mayor
Morgan said Council had e few personnel matters it wished to discuss
privately and inquired if it was legal to do so. City Attorney McLean
said if they were going to discuss specific persons who occupied
positions in the City service, it was proper to discuss them and their
salary in en Executive Session; if it was the general subject of pay,
the answer would be "no." The Mayor inquired if it was proper to
have the Civil Service Commission with them. The City Attorney said
they could take whomever they wanted.
An Executive Session was called by the Mayor (8:20 p.m.).
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The meeting reconvened at 8:30 p.m.: Council members present:
Colburn, Harris, Reid, Morgan. Absent: Hogue.
Mayor Morgan asked to have the classification and salary review
booklets which had been distributed earlier returned; Merrill
Stamper, President, National City Municipal Employees' Association,
inquired if he could have one of the booklets. The Mayor said not
tonight. City Manager Osburn said they would get the booklets out
as soon as they could; Moved by Colburn, seconded by Harris, the
Council go on record stating generally the survey be accepted and the
increases be made retroactive to December 1, but the action of the`
Council on the acce tance not take lace until next Tuesda ni ht's
meeting. Motion carried, by the following vote, to -wit: Ayes:
Colburn, Harris, Reid, Morgan. Nays: None. Absent: Hogue. Mayor
Morgan expressed appreciation to Mr. Schwegel and Mr. Hauser for pre-
senting the survey to them that night. Councilman Harris said he
wished they had the booklet earlier; it was a big decision and they
could not read it within an hour and feet they had done a good job
digesting its contents well enough to vote on it. Councilman Reid
said the survey looked good to him but he needed more time before
voting on it. Mr. Schwegel said while working on the survey, they
sttrration,ethe d hCity e oemployees, and peration and sthe tconsideration providedance provided bte �by theini-
City Council.
Moved by Harris, seconded by Reid, the meetin be closed. Motion
carried, by the following"vote, to -wit: yes: Colburn; Harris, Reid,
Morgan. Nays: None. Absent: Hogue. The meeting closed at 8:40 p.m.
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